The Space Between podcast builds on the belief that conversations, bridging across different spheres, can extend our ability to imagine better futures. Anchored in thinking about space — how it is produced, designed and occupied — these discussions seek to build knowledge, find commonalities, and inspire actions in the real world. We seek to foster intersectional dialogues between architects, artists, geographers, anthropologists, poets, politicians, scientists and dreamers. Every field has something to offer; what we hope to do is look at and learn from the Space Between.
In this first episode, moderated by KoozArch founder Federica Zambeletti, we welcome Kate Crawford and Marina Otero Verzier to explore the materialities, environmental and social consequences of artificial intelligence. Listen to the episode on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
Kate Crawford is a leading scholar of the impacts of artificial intelligence. She is a professor at USC in Los Angeles and a senior principal researcher at MSR in NYC. Her book, Atlas of AI, won multiple international awards including book of the year for the Financial Times. Her artworks have been acquired by museums such as MoMA and the V&A. Her latest art collaboration with Vladan Joler, Calculating Empires, premiered at Fondazione Prada in Milan in November. Kate was named in Time Magazine’s TIME100 as one of the most influential people in AI.
Dr. Marina Otero Verzier is Dean’s Visiting Assistant Professor at GSAPP, Columbia University, where she leads the Data Mourning clinic, exploring the intersection between digital infrastructures and climate catastrophe. A 2022 Harvard Wheelwright Prize winner, she collaborates with scientific institutions such as the DIPC Supercomputing Center on developing prototypes like Computational Compost. She contributed to Chile’s first National Data Centers Plan alongside "Resistencia SocioAmbiental – Quilicura" and other local communities on the front lines of extractivism. Previously, she headed the MA Social Design at Design Academy Eindhoven (2020-2023) and directed research at Het Nieuwe Instituut (2015-2022). Her curatorial work includes Wet Dreams (2024), Compulsive Desires (2023) among many others; she has co-edited Automated Landscapes (2023), Lithium: States of Exhaustion (2021), More-than-Human (2020) and several other titles.
Federica Zambeletti is the founder and managing director of KoozArch. She is an architect, researcher and storyteller whose interests lie at the intersection between art, architecture and regenerative practices. In 2022 Federica founded KoozArch with the ambition of creating a space where to research, explore and discuss architecture beyond the limits of its built form. Prior to dedicating her full attention to KoozArch, Federica collaborated with the architecture studio and non-profit agency for change UNA/UNLESS working on numerous cultural projects and the research of "Antarctic Resolution". Federica is an Architectural Association School of Architecture in London alumni.
Space Between is a podcast curated and produced by KoozArch Studio and is hosted by Founder and Managing Director Federica Zambeletti and Chief Editor Shumi Bose.
Production: Anna Mazzon
Post-production: Khaled Nadim
Graphics by KoozArch Studio.
Music credits: KMRU
