The Space Between podcast builds on the belief that conversations, bridging across different spheres, can extend our ability to imagine better futures. Anchored in thinking about space — how it is produced, designed and occupied — these discussions seek to build knowledge, find commonalities, and inspire actions in the real world. We seek to foster intersectional dialogues between architects, artists, geographers, anthropologists, poets, politicians, scientists and dreamers. Every field has something to offer; what we hope to do is look at and learn from the Space Between.
EP. 01 | SPACE BETWEEN: KATE CRAWFORD & MARINA OTERO VERZIER
In this first episode, moderated by KoozArch founder Federica Zambeletti, we welcome Kate Crawford and Marina Otero Verzier to explore the materialities, environmental and social consequences of artificial intelligence. Listen to the episode on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
EP. 02 | SPACE BETWEEN: KELLER EASTERLING & NIKIL SAVAL
In this second episode, moderated by KoozArch chief editor Shumi Bose, we bring together the architectural academic and artist Keller Easterling, and the polymathic, but currently politician, Nikil Saval. This conversation traverses housing, land rights, race and how we can build agency towards broader and robust forms of social and spatial justice. Listen to the episode on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
Bios
Kate Crawford is a leading scholar of the impacts of artificial intelligence. She is a professor at USC in Los Angeles and a senior principal researcher at MSR in NYC. Her book, Atlas of AI, won multiple international awards including book of the year for the Financial Times. Her artworks have been acquired by museums such as MoMA and the V&A. Her latest art collaboration with Vladan Joler, Calculating Empires, premiered at Fondazione Prada in Milan in November. Kate was named in Time Magazine’s TIME100 as one of the most influential people in AI.
Keller Easterling is Enid Storm Dwyer Professor of Architecture at Yale. Easterling's books include Medium Design (Verso 2021), Extrastatecraft: The Power of Infrastructure Space (Verso, 2014), Subtraction (Sternberg, 2014), Enduring Innocence: Global Architecture and its Political Masquerades (MIT, 2005), and Organization Space: Landscapes, Highways and Houses in America (MIT, 1999). Easterling is also the co-author (with Richard Prelinger) of Call it Home, a laserdisc/DVD history of US suburbia from 1934-1960. Easterling lectures and exhibits internationally. Her research and writing were included in the 2014 and 2018 Venice Biennales. Easterling is a 2019 United States Artist in Architecture and Design.
Dr. Marina Otero Verzier is Dean’s Visiting Assistant Professor at GSAPP, Columbia University, where she leads the Data Mourning clinic, exploring the intersection between digital infrastructures and climate catastrophe. A 2022 Harvard Wheelwright Prize winner, she collaborates with scientific institutions such as the DIPC Supercomputing Center on developing prototypes like Computational Compost. She contributed to Chile’s first National Data Centers Plan alongside "Resistencia SocioAmbiental – Quilicura" and other local communities on the front lines of extractivism. Previously, she headed the MA Social Design at Design Academy Eindhoven (2020-2023) and directed research at Het Nieuwe Instituut (2015-2022). Her curatorial work includes Wet Dreams (2024), Compulsive Desires (2023) among many others; she has co-edited Automated Landscapes (2023), Lithium: States of Exhaustion (2021), More-than-Human (2020) and several other titles.
Nikil Saval is an American writer, organiser, activist, and politician. He currently serves as the Democratic State Senator for the 1st district in the Pennsylvania State Senate, in the heart of Philadelphia. He is the author of Cubed: A Secret History of the Workplace and A Rage in Harlem, about a speculative collaboration between the poet June Jordan and visionary Buckminster Fuller. Saval was co-editor of n+1, a contributing writer for The New Yorker, and frequent contributor for the New York Times, covering architecture, urbanism, and design. Saval co-founded the progressive organisation Reclaim Philadelphia, and.has led statewide coalitions to successfully fight for housing security, criminal justice reform and worker's rights.
Shumi Bose is chief editor at KoozArch. She is an educator, curator and editor in the field of architecture and architectural history. Shumi is a Senior Lecturer in architectural history at Central Saint Martins and also teaches at the Royal College of Art, the Architectural Association and the School of Architecture at Syracuse University in London. She has curated widely, including exhibitions at the Venice Biennale of Architecture, the Victoria and Albert Museum and the Royal Institute of British Architects. In 2020 she founded Holdspace, a digital platform for extracurricular discussions in architectural education, and currently serves as trustee for the Architecture Foundation.
Federica Zambeletti is the founder and managing director of KoozArch. She is an architect, researcher and digital curator whose interests lie at the intersection between art, architecture and regenerative practices. In 2015 Federica founded KoozArch with the ambition of creating a space where to research, explore and discuss architecture beyond the limits of its built form. Prior to dedicating her full attention to KoozArch, Federica collaborated with the architecture studio and non-profit agency for change UNA/UNLESS working on numerous cultural projects and the research of "Antarctic Resolution". Federica is an Architectural Association School of Architecture in London alumni.
Space Between is a podcast curated and produced by KoozArch Studio and is hosted by Founder and Managing Director Federica Zambeletti and Chief Editor Shumi Bose.
Production: Anna Mazzon
Post-production: Khaled Nadim
Graphics by KoozArch Studio.
Music credits: KMRU
